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              progress. The song illustrates that when you  feeling miserable, so I thought, “I’ve got to  to put yourself on a bit of a pedestal where
              keep all your frustrations and anger inside,  do something about it.” I went to the doctors  people are all going to interpret what you
              it leads you to a breaking point of despera-  and the guy was just like, “Here, just take  were going through is a bit of a thing, but
              tion where you feel you might as well just  these,” he couldn’t give a shit. He was prob-  after  five  minutes  of  thinking,  I  was  like,
              “give it up”’. He tells us that those feelings  ably a really nice person. He was nice to me,  “D’ya know what? Fuck it, I don’t care”. I’ve
              came up on the last album cycle. The band,  but it just wasn’t what I needed at the time. I  always told myself, when it comes to writing
              at that time, were signed to Search and De-  remember getting back in my car, thinking,  songs, the music will do the talking and the
              stroy Records/Epic Records.        “Fuck this shit.” Everyone encourages peo-  lyrics will kind of follow that, whether that’s
                “It’s just, Mallory Knox is between my-  ple to talk about this shit, to do something  how  you’re  feeling  or  whether  the  music
              self,  James,  Joe,  Dave                                                             brings  out  a  certain
              and  Mikey;  very  much                                                               emotion  in  you,  and  to
              our  livelihood,  very                                                                go  against  that  I  think
              much our passion, very                                                                would have been wrong,
              much  everything  that                                                                so I just went with it and
              we build our life around,                                                             it turned out the way it
              and  as  I  go  back  to,                                                             did.  And  no  regrets
              when you put your life                                                                about it.”
              on hold, basically, to try                                                               We’re glad he has no
              and  make  the  band  as                                                              regrets,  and  think  the
              big a success as it can                                                               song  will  help  others
              be, then you have this                                                                that  may  go  through
              passion, this drive, that                                                             similar circumstances.
              you feel like the people                                                                 “And that’s been the
              that  are  technically  in                                                            coolest  thing  since  the
              charge of the decision-                                                               song,  I  didn’t  write  the
              making  process  don’t                                                                song to be inspirational
              share that and you kind                                                               to  other  people  or  for
              of feel like it’s hindering                                                           something to gain out of
              the  progress,  you  end                                                              it. I’d love to say, “Yeah,
              up  feeling  a  bit  frus-                                                            I was trying to help other
              trated and a bit let down                                                             people,”  that’s  just  not
              and that was where that                                                               the  truth.  I  wrote  that
              song was born.”                                                                       song  because  it  was
                It  seems  like  many                                                               something that I needed
              bands  go  through  this                                                              at the time, it was some-
              at some point in their career. In this issue,  about it, and if that is really what is happen-  thing  that  spoke  to  me.  I’ve  always  said,
              both You Me At Six and Deaf Havana had  ing, it’s just going to put people off more.  “You can’t write a song for other people un-
              members that almost felt like giving it up.   ‘Better Off Without You’ isn’t a song, ‘feel  less that’s your actual fucking job”. When I
                “Everyone gets to a point where they feel  sorry for me, look at my situation,’ it’s just  come to write songs for this band, because
              frustrated,” says Sam. “It’s not always black  dealing with that frustration, taking that jump  these are the songs that I’m most passionate
              and white in terms of the decisions that you  and then when you take that jump you feel  about it has to be for me, because if it’s not
              have to make; there are certain roads you  like you fell even further.”  for  me,  it’s  not  going  to  be  as  good  as  it
              have  to  go  down  in  order  to  do  certain  Sam did talk to others after visiting the  could be. So you have to back yourself and
              things,  so  it’s  natural  for  a  band  that  just  doctor. “I think I pretty much opened up with  that’s what I did with that song. I did have
              wants to… when you think a decision is so  family  members  and  friends  and  once  I’d  that five minutes, but it was just something
              right and there’s a person telling you it can’t  done  that  that  was  the  easiest  way  to  go  that I needed at the time. It’s been really cool
              happen like that, of course it builds frustra-  about it. I always think you sort stuff out by  to see people relating to it, but I’m not turn-
              tion. It’s just the music industry though, isn’t  doing  things  a  certain  way  and  I’m  very  ing around, going, “Yeah, that’s why we did
              it? I mean, it’s not just the music industry, it’s  thankful a year down the line to say that I’m  it,  we  wanted  to  help  you  out.”  I’m  just  a
              the  entertainment  industry.                                                        fucking  27-year-old  guy
              I’m sure it happens with ac-                                                         who  wrote  a  song  in  his
              tors and comedians as well.  “We live in a society now where life is so fast, sometimes  bedroom  one  day  and
              Not  everything  is  how  we it’s hard to keep up. The thing is, that’s okay. It’s okay to feel  that’s how it’s turned out
              want it to be. It’s just life.”  like you can’t keep up right now and if you need to do some-  and I think it’d be foolish
                                                                                                   of  me  to  say  otherwise,
                                     thing about it during that specific moment in time, to help
                   ife, for Sam, has defi-                                                         that I was trying to inspire
                Lnitely  seen  ups  and you through that, that’s not a big deal either,” - Sam Douglas  other people, but if people
              downs. Second single, ‘Bet-                                                          can take inspiration out of
              ter  Off  Without  You’,  is  a                                                      it that’s a good thing, be-
              song about taking Citalopram, a drug to treat  pretty happy with how everything is.”  cause that’s what music should do.”
              anxiety and depression. Sam went to see a  But at the time he needed to vent after
              doctor when he was going through a hard  that doctor’s appointment. He immediately  here’s a lyric in ‘Better Off Without
              time and the doctor handed him Citalopram  wrote the song that night, and didn’t think  TYou’  –  ‘I  need  something  stronger
              with a lax approach.               about it too much. He had to get it out of his  than your medicine’. So did the Citalopram
                Sam remembers back, “I had a bad time  system.                       not work for Sam?
              at Warped Tour in America and I was strug-  “If I thought about it, I would never have  “For some people it can, but for me, I
              gling to deal with the aspect of being home-  written  it,  because  I  would  have  gone  know it takes a certain time to get in, but I
              sick, not being a part of my family for six  through every reason why I shouldn’t have  wasn’t really on it long enough. It made me
              months. Little things like your dog passing  done, because there were a lot of cons in ex-  feel sick and it made me feel kind of numb
              away and not being able to be there and see-  posing myself in that lyrical content,” Sam  and I didn’t like that. I’ve always liked my al-
              ing your brother and sister move out and I’m  replies. “So if I had thought about it, it would-  cohol,” he laughs. “That was always my go-
              the oldest of three and I’m still going back to  n’t  have  happened,  it  was  just  something  to thing at that particular time of being in
              a house when my two younger siblings have  that I needed to do obviously to release it  America all the time. And this is the thing –
              moved out, and it’s just trying to deal with  from my system… I was writing that song in  you’re in a band and you’re touring all the
              that reality of you’re doing the coolest fuck-  my room and I got to the chorus and I read  time, it’s free booze, I can see how that slide
              ing job in the world, you’re living out your  the lyrics back and I thought, “Wow”. And I’d  can become too steep at times. But yeah,
              dream, but you feel like life is passing you  had that five minutes where I was, ‘Do I re-  that was just me. I’d much rather drink and
              by, and it was just trying to deal with that sit-  ally, really want to write about this?’ I found  drink until I’m happy rather than take these
              uation. I remember getting stressed out to  it hard to talk to my loved ones at first, let  pills that make me feel sick and numb any-
              the point that I was waking up every morning  alone strangers about it, ie. the doctor. Now  way. That was kind of the basis for that line.”
                MALLORY KNOX
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