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               decision; am I going to give in to this or am  “Yeah.  I  guess  so,”  she  replies.  “I’m  written now! It was good for me to engage
               I going to stand up? So in a way it has the  very drawn to her character. It’s not a coin-  actually  with  the  topic  when  feeling  so
               same rebelling spirit but she’s basically giv-  cidence that she’s the one who speaks in  strongly about it. The book actually opened
               ing that the finger and ‘let the earth cover  the lyrics. Yeah, she’s my favourite!”  with a quote by a 17th century philosopher
               me,  angels  will  come  for  me,  but  not                           whose name I’ve lost right now and he talks
               tonight’. So it’s about her very deliberate  he  band  released  an  official  lyric  about  mankind  and  all  of  the  wonderful
               choice to live. I thought it should have a cel-  Tvideo for ‘The Glory And The Scum’  things  we  can  do  and  all  of  the  horrible
               ebratory vibe to it. I’m very happy with how  a few weeks before the album was released.  things  that  we  can  do  and  then  he  con-
               that track turned out.”            Charlotte wrote this song about the violent  cludes with ‘We truly are the glory and the
                                                  events that have been happening all over  scum of the universe’, and yeah, that res-
                    peaking of death, ‘Turn The Lights  the world. Charlotte felt frustrated about the  onated with me and my thoughts about that.
                 SOut’ was written about the character  world and the media’s way of discussing  That was just one of the things that I read
               Death  in  The  Sandman.  Charlotte  says,  the events. Charlotte says, “I was feeling re-  and immediately knew “This has to be inte-
               “There’s a lot of death on this record. I’m a  ally  down.  I’ve  always  been  a  fairly  opti-  grated into some song title at some point,
               huge Neil Gaiman fan and I always thought  mistic person and I really believe that every  or in some song’s lyric at some point,” and
               that his personification in The Sandman se-  one of us has equal potential for good and  it worked out with this song.
               ries is very interesting in a way that it’s so  bad. It’s basically all about how we choose  ‘The Glory And The Scum’ originally had
               different from all other cultural representa-  to  use  that  potential. And  I  do  think  that  the  working  title  ‘Clawfinger’.  Charlotte
               tions of death. They always have to be these  everyone  has  the  potential  to  do  the  ab-  says, “Often, songs like this one, when a
               scary,  skinny  grim  reaper-y  kind  of  guys  solute best and the absolute worst, so that  song  starts  from  the  instrumental  world
               that we have to be very fearful of and in this  is where that comes from. But I was actually  rather than the lyrical world, then we work
               comic series it’s a young goth woman who  given a book by a friend when I was feeling  on  a  track  and  we’re  like,  “What  are  we
               does her job with a lot of empathy and love  fairly  pessimistic  about  all  of  this.  The  gonna call this one?” and I think this one
               and she welcomes everybody to the world  book’s called The Better Angels Of Our Na-  initially had a riff that reminded us of the
               and she also greets them at the end of their  ture by Steven Pinker. The book is a history  band Clawfinger. In the end, I’m not even
               lives. I fell in love with the character as soon  of violence in mankind. That doesn’t sound  sure  if  that  riff  ended  up  in  the  eventual
               as I first read the comics and it was a really  like it would cheer you up but it does, be-  song. But yeah, we tend to stick with the
               nice challenge to make her speak through  cause  the  conclusion  of  the  book  is  that  very first working title we give a song until I
               the song.”                         we’re  living  our  days  in  one  of  the  most  am very sure I’m not going to change the
                 Other  characters  in  The  Sandman  in-  peaceful eras ever and it’s a trend that is  lyrics  anymore  so  people  don’t  have  to
               clude Dream, Destruction, Despair and De-  still continuing. That was kind of a hopeful  change the working title six times! We just
               sire. We ask Charlotte which character she  idea. Of course that book was written before  go from first title ever to the final thing.”
               would  be  out  of  all  of  them.  Would  it  be  2016  so  I  don’t  know  if  the  conclusion  It’s interesting that going back to the
               Death?                             would have been the same if it had been  ‘Lucidity’ album, on ‘The Gathering’, Char-


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