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              to look at ourselves and make sure that we  actually. Our music tastes are quite similar.  always starting new schools. Had to do that
              were doing our job to the best of our abili-  And one good thing about him; it’s a bit of a  five or six times in primary school. It’s kind
              ties,  if  that  makes  sense.  He  would  quite  generalisation but you know how Americans  of difficult to walk into those situations and
              often just tell you that someone wasn’t good  tend to be endlessly enthusiastic and posi-  be really arrogant. It’s not really who I am.”
              enough and then leave you to it for a couple  tive  about  things  while  British  people  are  He says that he and John are confident
              of hours and then come back. It was good  more, well, we are anyway, as a band, a bit  in  different  ways  though.  “I  guess  ‘cause
              that he pushed us to our limits a bit.”  more passive? So it helps having that sort of  he’s older he looks after me a little bit. So he
                What was Fraser’s limit, we wonder.   character  in  to  move  things  along  when  kind of has to be a bit more confident. But I
                He replies, “As David will probably tell  we’re being grumpy Englishmen.”  know  he’s  got  that  self-doubt  because  he
              anyone, he likes to get to the bottom of what  Chris went on to play drums for the band  tries to make everything perfect and he’ll go
              people are thinking and where their abilities  through this summer’s Vans Warped Tour in  over everything again and again and again
              lie and I think it was the song ‘Living In A  the USA. Fraser adds, “The band are happy  until they are perfect. I’m sure we all have a
              Dream Is So Easy’. We had this demo and we  with how things are going at the moment.  bit of it in us.”
              all thought it was spot on. We figured we’d  He’s done a great job on the record and we  Of course, getting every album perfect is
              just go in, record it and just keep it as it was,  spent the whole summer touring with him  a big thing, but so is everything that comes
              but he was very critical of how all the instru-  and had a great time.”  with having a new release. The artwork of
              mentation was put together and it was get-  With Ben no longer in the band, Fraser,  ‘Echoes’ was something that Fraser spent
              ting really frustrating. For me, personally, it  Gus, John and Simon are in no rush to add  time on – and rather surprisingly to him, his
              was one of the songs that I had worked on  a new official fifth member though. “Things  own artwork was used for it. He tells Black
              the most, previously, before we got to the  are a lot simpler when you only have four  Velvet that they initially asked someone else
              studio, and he just didn’t understand where  people’s opinions, rather than five. Just that  to  work  on  the  cover.  “We  sent  off  some
              I was coming from with it, and I couldn’t un-  one person makes a big difference.”  rough ideas to someone and they sent us a
              derstand why he couldn’t understand it! So                             bunch of stuff back and we were like, “This
              there was a point where                                                               doesn’t  seem  right,  it
              frustration built so much.                                                            doesn’t  seem  to  fit”.  I
              We  kind  of  got  there  in                                                          think it was one of our
              the end. I think we have a                                                            managers who was like,
              happy medium of both of                                                               “Why don’t you just do
              our ideas on that song.”                                                              it?” and I was like, “Er…
                Gus  and  Fraser’s                                                                  I don’t really know how.”
              brother  John  worked                                                                 One of our friends is a
              quite closely together on                                                             really  good  photogra-
              the  album.  Fraser  says,                                                            pher, a guy called Mar-
              “From my point of view I                                                              cus  Maschwitz,  so  I
              tend  to  write  a  lot  of                                                           went  to  him  as  he’s  a
              music  by  myself  and                                                                professional  photogra-
              then give it to the group                                                             pher,  he’s  done  it  for
              and then Gus will do his                                                              years. I always go to him
              thing  over  it.  Because                                                             for advice. I approached
              this  process  was  quite                                                             him and was like, “How
              rushed, I was recording                                                               do  you  feel  about  get-
              guitars  in  one  room,                                                               ting onboard and having
              John was recording gui-                                                               a go at making some art-
              tars  in  the  other  room                                                            work for us? We’ll come
              and  Gus  was  doing  vo-                                                             up  with  a  bunch  of
              cals in a different room,                                                             ideas,  shoot  a  load  of
              all at the same time. So                                                              pictures  and  then  just
              there wasn’t actually too                                                             see what happens.” We
              much  chat  between  us                                                               kind  of  spent  the  day
              while we were recording                                                               doing  that.  Gus  came
              our  parts  and  writing                                                              along and we just shot a
              them as well, as we did a                                                             bunch of stuff. I actually
              lot of writing in the stu-                                                            went  home  that  night
              dio. This time we weren’t                                                             and  decided  to  shoot
              really  in  each  other’s                                                             some  other  stuff,  the
              faces all the time, getting                                                           kind of ink splatter kind
              to  grips  with  the  ideas              espite being in a touring band that          of thing and we actually
              until  after  the  songs  had  come  together,  Dget to travel the world, performing to  went with that, even though it only took ten
              which was kind of nice actually. We’re quite  big crowds on a daily basis, Fraser is down  minutes whereas the rest of the stuff took
              a democratic band I think, whenever we write  to earth and even has self-doubt. He recently  days of planning.”
              songs.  We  tend  to  not  progress  it  unless  posted  online,  ‘A  reminder  to  myself  and  Fraser’s gotten more and more into pho-
              everyone is happy with it. I think that took  anyone that needs it that self doubt is key to  tography over the years, mostly thanks to
              away our ability to time-waste, which is a  improvement. Just gotta balance it out with  the internet and social media. “I was always
              good thing.”                       a bit of belief and hard work’. He confirms  in charge of our socials. I think it was before
                They  did  have  time  for  a  few  laughs  that he has a ton of self-doubt. “Probably too  Instagram really got popular, our Facebook,
              though.  Fraser asks, “You know the band Of  much if anything. I think anyone who does  our Twitter and stuff so I always had to take
              Mice And Men? They came in a couple of  anything  creative,  if  you  think  that  every-  pictures  on  my  phone  of  what  we  were
              weeks during our stay because they were  thing you do is perfect then I don’t really see  doing. So I eventually got the cheapest DSLR
              recording straight after us. We kind of hung  how you can improve on anything. For ex-  you could get and just learnt how to do it and
              out with them a bunch. Those guys made me  ample, Kanye West or someone, just thinks  then we recorded an album in Thailand and
              laugh. Whenever someone makes someone  that  he’s  a  God  to  music  and  can  do  no  we needed to film stuff as well, so I upgraded
              laugh Si’s just got this infectious laugh so  wrong. How’s he ever going to better what  my DSLR and got a film camera and then it
              everyone’s  just  pissing  themselves  basi-  he’s  done  in  the  past?  I  personally  don’t  kind of just spiraled from there really. We’re
              cally.”                            think he has, because he already thinks he’s  always going to so many great places, you
                Since drummer Ben Jolliffe parted ways  the  greatest.  So  I  think  a  little  bit  of  self-  kind of need to keep these memories. The
              with the band, Chris Kamrada, formerly of  doubt is good. I probably have too much. It’s  pictures you take on your phone just tend to
              There For Tomorrow, who also drums for Be-  good to keep yourself in check.”  get lost, don’t they?”
              fore You Exit, a band of brothers signed to  The self-doubt may have stemmed from  Fraser now has a website showcasing
              RCA,  played  drums  on  the  album.  Fraser  when he was a kid.  He says, “We moved  his  photography  (including  an  ‘Echoes’
              says, “He slotted into the band really easily  around a lot as kids, me and John. We were  page), and has offered to take photos of oth-
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