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                      ind your tribe,’ they say, although sometimes we can go through life feeling like we

                 ‘Fdon’t have a tribe. We haven’t found the ones we gel with; the ones that understand
              us and we understand them. Yet often, with music, you can stumble across a scene, or a
              band, where you suddenly feel you belong. Dream State are inspiring others after others

              have inspired them. They want to be the light when the only thing you can see is darkness.
              Frontwoman CJ Gilpin has been in the dark herself, and, now aspires to help others, and
              with their debut album, ‘Primrose Path’, Dream State are doing just that.


                   orming at the end of 2014 in South  what is perfect. People try and follow that,  ing a good day and you wake up, you’re like
                FWales,  Dream  State  released  their  and that’s false. For me, it’s false. My truth is  ‘Oh, I feel good,’ the world’s suddenly better.
              debut  EP,  ‘Consequences’,  in  November  false, it might be somebody else’s truth you  I try and say to girls, ‘Don’t try and change
              2015  to  critical  acclaim,  although  it  was  know, but for me it can be very hard for girls  anything yet. Try and heal what’s going on in
              ‘White Lies’ that became their breakthrough  and boys that are unconfident in themselves  here  first’,”  she  points  to  her  mind,  “‘and
              single in March 2017. The band, that features  that see these set standards of beauty and  then make these big decisions.” She points
              Charlotte-Jayne  Gilpin  on  vocals,  Aled  they feel not good enough for the world, so  to  her  head  again,  “This  is  ruling  every-
              Evans on lead guitar, Rhys Wilcox on rhythm  they try everything to try and reach that, and  thing.”
              guitar and backing vocals and Jamie Lee on  if they feel like they don’t, it kind of has an
              drums, followed a second five-track EP re-  effect on their mental health and their own  e ask if she aims for perfection in
              lease (‘Recovery’ – of which ‘White Lies’ was  self-confidence, whereas I’m like, ‘I don’t get  Wany areas of her life, ie. music?
              one of the tracks) in 2018 with their debut  it’. One day we’re all going to look like old  “No, I don’t set standards any more,” CJ
              album, ‘Primrose Path’, in October of 2019.  leather  handbags…  And  it’s  not  going  to  replies. “I don’t have any limits. Again, set-
              Charlotte-Jayne, who goes by the shortened  matter  one  day,  and  you’ll  look  back  and  ting those standards, it limits you as well, so
              abbreviation of CJ, tells Black Velvet that the  think ‘Why did I waste so much time bloody  the  potential  of  what  you  could  possibly
              feedback from the album has been very pos-  worrying and spending all that time trying to  reach, and if you take away the bar and take
              itive. “Yeah, it’s been sick. I can’t get over it.  change myself and I am good enough?’”   away the box, everything is limitless. Musi-
              And a lot of kids are writing to me saying,  A few months ago, we specifically read  cally, I don’t believe in putting any limits in
              like the EP did, it’s helping them. The songs  an article in the paper about a young girl who  the sound. That’s why the album had to be
              mean  so  much  to  them  and  they’ve  said  had had two different surgery procedures at  quite diverse and different, and every song
              they’ve never had such a relatable album in  the same time ‘because it was cheaper’, who  had to stand on its own. So I got rid of that
              many years. Yes, it’s been wonderfully over-  ended  up  dying  because  of  it.  It  seemed  sort of standard. I don’t strive for perfection.
              whelming.”                         such a waste of a life.             The only thing I strive for perfection in is…
                The  band  have  said  that  they  want  to  “I know, ‘Was it worth it?’ sort of thing,”  ‘perfection’ whatever… it’s just to be better
              speak for the ones who can’t - so we ask CJ  CJ responds. “People like that, I think we’re  in myself as a human being, as a person, to
              who the ones that can’t, are.      making the mistakes in certain generations  learn about all the negative parts of myself
                “The  people  that  have  been  suffering,  in order for the future to be better. But then,  and my shadow parts of my personality and
              that not necessarily have a support group  I always get conflicted. I try not to judge. I’ve  learn to know all of them, and learn to love
              behind them or a support around them, that  got friends close to me that have Botox and  them  too. And  my  mission  is  to  kind  of,  I
              kind of feel shackled within themselves like  lips done and I’m like ‘Who am I to judge  don’t  know,  to  defeat  the  thing  that  lacks
              I once did,” she replies. “It’s those people I  them? Who am I to say that’s wrong?’ I just  confidence in me. That’s the only thing I kind
              want to reach into and bring out the light in.  know that they’re doing it because they don’t  of want to fight. But yeah, I don’t think I have
              The same way I felt when I first discovered  think they’re good enough, that they have to  a set standard for perfection. I used to when
              bands like Linkin Park and stuff, and I felt  change  their  physical  form  and  it’s  like,  I  I was younger, but growing up teaches you
              like I didn’t have a voice, and these people  don’t want them to think that they have to do  things,  getting  older;  that’s  the  beauty  of
              gave people like me a voice ‘cause you re-  that because I think they’re beautiful anyway,  aging. We don’t give aging enough credit if
              lated  so  much  to  the  suffering.  It’s  those  but again, because of media and stuff, we’ve  I’m honest. I feel so different to the girl I was
              people  I  kinda  want  to  get  into,  into  their  set that standard and we’re trying to mimic  when I was 14/15 to the girl who is in her
              minds and awaken some confidence and tell  it in some way, where, I think, like nature, we  early 20s.”
              them it’s going to be OK and enlighten them  should all try to find our individual expres-
              and ‘You can rise,’ and, with us, and the sup-  sion and not be afraid of that. I’m very con-  ne in four people in the world will be
              port  and  power  of  music,  I  think,  and  the  flicted half the time, but as long as people  Oaffected by mental or neurological
              power of expression, you can.”     are happy, I’m happy. But yeah, that’s awful  disorders  at  some  point  in  their  lives,  ac-
                The new album, produced by Dan Weller,  to hear that. That’s horrible. Poor family.”  cording to the World Health Organisation. Dr.
              who  has  worked  with  the  likes  of  Enter  We often don’t realize how insecure most  Gro Harlem Brundtland, the former Director-
              Shikari, Babymetal and Bury Tomorrow, was  people are - and it’s a shame.   General of WHO says, “Mental illness is not
              recorded  at  Silk  Mill  Studios  in  Stoke-on-  CJ says, “It’s all self-hatred. Any sort of  a personal failure. In fact, if there is failure, it
              Trent, and features all kinds of relatable sub-  addiction, anxiety or when people do this to  is to be found in the way we have responded
              ject  matter  –  everything  from  social  themselves, it’s linked to a form of self-hate.  to people with mental and brain disorders.”
              commentary to dysfunctional relationships  It’s like when you look in that mirror and say,  At the beginning of single ‘Open Windows’,
              to  struggles  with  addictions.  ‘Open  Win-  ‘No, I love you. I love you body, and I’m going  CJ quite adamantly states ‘Listen’. She says,
              dows’ is a song that we definitely relate to.  to love… Charlotte’,” she taps herself while  “That was me saying, ‘cause I was having an
              It’s a song related to mental health and the  saying  this,  “…Whoever  you  are  and  tell  absolute breakdown one day, ‘cause I had
              pressure  to  be  flawless,  thanks  to  social  yourself ‘I love you’ and practice saying ‘I  someone close to me who I love very much
              media.                             love  you’  because  we’re  so  hard  on  our-  having some mental health issues. I was try-
                Singing ‘I just don’t get it,’ CJ says, “Just  selves. We’re constantly going ‘I don’t like  ing to find the money to pay to privately get
              like the way we’ve set a standard of beauty  this, I don’t like this,’ and you’re burying it in  some help, but it was so much money and
              and society’s standards and it doesn’t res-  your subconscious to the point where your  then the NHS, it was six weeks, but it took a
              onate  with  me  with  my  core  self,  ‘cause  I  body believes you, everything believes you.  year. I was trying to say to the world, ‘We’re
              don’t see us all to look good, to me…” she  One of my favourite quotes is by an author  doing it wrong, and we’re missing the mark
              looks down, “they’re spacesuits of skin, here  called Anais Nin. She says ‘You don’t see  here.’ Something’s not right. We can’t help
              to bring us experience. For me, we’re always  things as they are, you see things as we are,’  each  other  out  and  it  involves  this  thing
              striving, there’s gotta be ‘the perfect Insta-  so  the  more  negative  you  are  inside,  the  we’ve created which we call money, which is
              gram thing’ and Instagram and social media  more the world, the perception of yourself is  an exchange of energy, but I just think we’re
              set standards to what… a false perception to  going to be dark, whereas when you’re hav-  doing it wrong. If someone needs help, we’ve
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