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              life are as important as anything else. People   round yourself with are fundamental. People can   take inspiration and hope from anybody who’s a
              need an escape. People need to be able to af-  either drag you down or lift you up. Find people   good person. You’ve just got to be the sort of
              ford to go to shows. Rising ticket prices. These   who inspire you, who support you, who believe   person to look for it, I think, and be affected by
              big, huge shows come to Manchester Arena or   in you, who are there for you. The right people   positive people. I think so. And we can all do our
              wherever; the hotels put the prices up. It’s dis-  can help you grow, bloom, expand and live a   bit by being a bit more positive, can’t we? And
              gusting. Absolutely disgusting. How is a man on   positive, fulfilling life.   try and be a bit more inspiring, I suppose.”
              the street supposed to go out and take his family   And ‘Cool Like A Fox’ on ‘Earth To Grace’ is   Massive Wagons are doing a great job of
              for a night out somewhere, when, all of a sud-  all about that. It’s quite a positive song, including   that at the minute.
              den, everything has increased in price tenfold?   the lyric, ‘When everything is goin to pot, I think
              It’s no good, is it? And your family is stuck home   about the souls who give me hope, I give credit   ooking to the future, Baz is going to keep
              because they can’t afford to go on holiday be-  to the faces who help me cope’. Baz sings about   Lbeing positive and keep trying to make a
              cause it’s ludicrously priced. Kids don’t go on   someone who is ‘a positive force for good’.   difference in the world.
                                                                                            “You never see the results, but you
                                                                                          just do your bit. It’s like Andy’s Man Club,
                                                                                          the song, and everything. We put the
                                                                                          song out, ‘Night Skies’, and had a lot of
                                                                                          messages from fellas saying, ‘I’ve gone to
                                                                                          an Andy’s Man Club.’ To me, that’s the
                                                                                          goal. I don’t know what else. That’s the
                                                                                          goal. Even if you manage to stop one
                                                                                          bloke from jumping off a bridge or what-
                                                                                          ever, the job’s done. I don’t need to know
                                                                                          about it. If it’s worked, it’s worked. All we
                                                                                          can do is sort of try. And again, if one kid
                                                                                          thinks about not bullying another kid be-
                                                                                          cause they’ve spoken to us for half an
                                                                                          hour, then I don’t need to know about it,
                                                                                          but it’s a job done. It’s just the little things.
                                                                                          I think the little things are as important as
                                                                                          the big issues. It’s alright stopping wars
                                                                                          and stuff, that’s for the government to deal
                                                                                          with, but we need to sort out antisocial be-
                                                                                          haviour and things that affect people’s
                                                                                          minds on a daily basis, at home and in the
                                                                                          street. They’re as important as world is-
                                                                                          sues, I think. Definitely.”
                                                                                            The song ‘Punk At Heart’ sees Baz
                                                                                          sing, ‘Gimme hope for the youth’. So,
                                                                                          what hope does he think the youth has
                                                                                          now?
                                                                                            “I don’t know. It’s hard being my age,”
                                                                                          Baz replies. “You get to an age where,
                                                                                          you get through your 20s and 30s, and
                                                                                          then you’re still, kind of, in touch with the
                                                                                          youth a little bit, but then I’m 45, so you
                                                                                          get to that age, and I truly think I am com-
                                                                                          ing to the end of my connection with
                                                                                          young people completely. You see it more
                                                                                          and more every year. I have to accept that
                                                                                          I am no longer in touch with what they
                                                                                          want and what they’re doing, and they’re
                                                                                          in charge of the future. I am in touch with
                                                                                          my little girl, who’s eight. I like to think I’m
                                                                                          bringing her up to be a great person and
                                                                                          her friends are certainly great little people.
                                                                                          So, I don’t know really. It’s just in their
                                                                                          hands, really. You can look on the bright
                                                                                          side or look on the dark side, can’t you?
                                                                                          You’ve got to hope for the best.”
                                                                                            Our advice is to stay positive.
                                                                                            Baz agrees, “Stay positive, that’s
                                                                                          right. I think it rubs off on people. You
                                                                                          have to stay positive. I think they look up
                                                                                          to you, kids, even if they think they don’t.
                                                                                          You’ve got to set an example and give
                                                                                          them a good impression. Just hope they
                                                                                          do take that and don’t blow the place up,
              holiday. We all live on earth and we’re all entitled   “That’s my dad, that,” he reveals. “The guy   eh?”
              to have a good time. We have to work hard. I   who paints your house. They’re all real people.
              think if we put the work in, you’re entitled to have   They’re all based on real people. That verse is   Maasive Wagons have set a great example
              a good time in life. You shouldn’t have to work   about my dad. That line.”   with ‘’Earth To Grace’. Take a listen - it will blow
              hard and go home and have nothing, should   Does Baz think we need more positive peo-  you away.
              you? I think it’s awful.”           ple in the world?                     Visit www.massivewagons.co.uk for more
                                                    “I think so,” he replies. “I think they’re out   info and visit www.andysmanclub.co.uk for
                    ut, on a more positive note, no matter   there. I don’t know whether we need more. I   more info on Andy’s Man Club. Get in touch if
                 Bwhat we’re going through, what can   suppose we could always do with more inspiring   you’re feeling down. It’s okay to talk.
              help us is other people. There’s a phrase, ‘it’s   people. We need to find them and it’s lovely to
              not what you know, but who you know’. This can   associate with them. I think we need to dig   Words By Shari Black Velvet
              help in business and career, but also, and more   deeper into people to truly recognise it. Every-
              importantly, personally.  The people you sur-  body’s inspiring to some degree. I think you can   Photos By Rob Blackham
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