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              in  life  or  love  or  care  or  connection,  but  clude a philosophical quote, named similarly  Fenix, like the rise out of the ashes kinda
              when they use the word ‘empty’ in the East  with two words - ‘React; Respond’, ‘Alone;  image that we’re all familiar with. It actually
              it’s  actually  a  desirable  state.  It  actually  Together’ and ‘Accept; Disconnect’.  tied in symbolically with the fading in and
              means open and clear and not filled with de-  Jonny explains, “The record is a reflec-  fading  out  and  with  being  reborn  and  all
              sires that push you and pull you through life  tion of a death and reverse process and a  those kind of concepts.” Jonny says he does
              like a puppet. It’s actually a good                                                         personalize   it
              place,  a  serene  place  to  be.  So                                                       when he sings it
              that puzzled me for a while, to de-                                                         and     thinks
              cide what kind of emptiness is a                                                            about  his  own
              worthy thing to become and what                                                             dad,  who  he
              kind of emptiness in the Western                                                            says, “is a very
              sense is a very negative feeling                                                            supporting  and
              that we try to avoid.”                                                                      very  loving  fa-
                                                                                                          ther.”
                    ne  thing  that  could  be-                                                              As  we  grow
                 Ocome negative, although                                                                 up  through  life,
              can often start out positive, is am-                                                        we    become
              bition. Nothing More themselves                                                             more awakened
              are an ambitious band, but ‘The                                                             by what is going
              Stories We Tell Ourselves’ begins                                                           on  around  us,
              with ‘Ambition; Destruction’. So is                                                         both   socially
              ambition destructive?                                                                       and  politically.
                 “That’s what I was struggling                                                            Of  course,  now
              with  these  last  two  years  -  was                                                       more than ever,
              that I’ve always felt ambition to be                                                        with the internet
              a positive force, but I’ve also seen                                                        and     social
              it,  I  guess  like  anything,  any                                                         media,  we  are
              strength or virtue taken to the ex-                                                         finding our own
              treme  can  turn  into  a  negative                                                         voices to speak
              thing. So I don’t think ambition is                                                         up  on  certain
              necessarily  destructive.  I  think                                                         subjects.   One
              ambition without context and bal-                                                           thing Jonny has
              ance and understanding can defi-                                                            noticed though,
              nitely become destructive when it                                                           is  how  some
              is unbridled.”                                                                              people point fin-
                 He  thinks  ambition  has  de-                                                           gers  at  others
              stroyed  some  bands  or  musi-                                                             without  looking
              cians.  “I  heard  this  quote  the                                                         to change them-
              other  day  where  someone  said,                                                           selves  first.  In
              ‘Narcissism many times is a re-                                                             ‘Do  You  Really
              sponse  to  people’s  feelings  of                                                          Want   It?’   he
              meaninglessness’.  So  a  lot  of                                                           sings,   ‘Every-
              times people that seem to be the                                                            body  wants  to
              most  narcissistic  or  self-ab-                                                            change    the
              sorbed  or  pursue  a  career  that                                                         world,  but  one
              puts  them  in  the  spotlight  and                                                         thing’s clear, no
              puts a lot of eyes on them, a lot of                                                        one  ever  wants
              times it’s a reaction to how mean-                                                          to change them-
              ingless they feel in the universe,”                                                         selves’. “I think
              says Jonny. “So they respond to                                                             the  overwhelm-
              that sense of meaninglessness by                                                            ing  majority  of
              trying to become over-meaningful                                                            people  tend  to
              to a lot of people or in their own eyes, and I  grieving and healing process and so, I think  take the easier route, which most of us do,
              think that a lot of musicians and performers  death and life are many times the same point  which  is  talk  about  how  everyone  else
              go down that path, and I can relate to that  on a circle. When something dies, something  should change, instead of how we should
              100%, because that deep sense of meaning-  is also simultaneously being reborn, and I  change, and, as a result, change the world
              less  or  even  a  sense  of  despair,  I  think  a  feel  like,  at  each  stage  of  that  grieving  starting with yourself,” he says. “I noticed a
              sense of ambition sometimes is borne out of  process, there were two things always pres-  trend  with  our  communication,  especially
              that. So, it’s not necessarily the ambition that  ent. Like the ‘Alone’ and ‘Together’ being put  with the rise of social media. Facebook is
              destroys them, but I think it ends up it can  side by side; that was at a phase when it felt  probably one of the biggest hubs for political
              play out to do that where they can put their  the  most  conflicted,  because  I  was  with  discussion and people projectile vomiting
              career first and it becomes such an impor-  someone but I felt so alone. I feel like I was  their ideologies onto others’ walls or com-
              tant thing to them that a lot of the things that  conflicted by the two things being present at  ment threads. I think that’s really where I saw
              really matter or contribute to happiness in  the same time. So all those are… ‘React; Re-  ‘everybody wants to change the world’, or at
              life, which are still the basics like love and  spond’ simultaneously presents when peo-  least talk about changing the world instead
              care  and  connection  with  people,  a  lot  of  ple deal with conflict, or getting triggered  of changing themselves, which is the only
              those things do get sacrificed in the wake of  with another person, a lot of times a big part  thing you can really control.”
              that ambition for their career, and they can  of you is reacting, and you’re unconsciously
              sacrifice their own happiness and then as a  reacting to whatever’s coming at you. And  s a band, Jonny, Mark, Dan and Ben
              result end up down a path of suicide or de-  then there’s a higher part of you that cares  Aare working at changing themselves
              spair or depression.”               and will take the time and energy to respond,  for the better – and this includes their live
                 Obviously  we’ve  seen  this  happen  re-  which is more of a conscious effort.”  show. If you’ve seen the band’s show, you’ll
              cently with the deaths of Chris Cornell and                            know that it is second to none. Previously,
              Chester Bennington, to name just two; Chris  ince the album focuses on death and  they had a section in the show where they
              in particular being out on tour and away from  Slife, it makes sense that the natural  brought out the Bassinator for a one-of-a-
              loved ones at the time of his suicide.   process of life and growing older, and the  kind band bass solo. They have now brought
                 But aside from ‘Ambition; Destruction’,  continuation of generations, is on the album  a new contraption to their stage set – some-
              the  band  also  have  other  short  musical  too. ‘Fade In/Fade Out’, Jonny says, “was  thing known as the Scorpion Tail. Bassist
              pieces on the album in between songs, ei-  originally written by Mark, our guitar player,  Dan, who is a welder, made the impressive
              ther  instrumental  pieces  or  those  that  in-  about his dad and his son. His son’s named  stage piece and the band have been incor-
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